In this episode, Misha chats with Canadian journalist and author, John Lorinc about the evolving concept of smart cities. He highlights how the continual urbanization of the world, with technology being central to this transformation, has led to this concept gaining relevance. His book, 'Dream State: Smart Cities, Technology, and the Pursuit of Urban Utopias', which won the 2022 Writer's Trust Balsillie Prize, explores this technology revolution in cities. The conversation touches upon key topics such as sensors, smart city technology, and surveillance in public space and the positive potential of smart city tech, such as smart grids contributing to green electricity transformations.